In February, before the current Coronavirus outbreak hit the U.S. in earnest, I met up with Dave Cole in Marina del Rey to join as guest on an episode of the Security Voices podcast, hosted by Dave and his partner in crime Jack Daniel.

If you need entertainment now that social distancing is in order and most of us are (hopefully) hunkering down at home, you can listen to the episode here. Dave and I discuss a wide range of topics ranging from L.A. traffic, teleworking, startup life, machine learning in the security industry, adversarial machine learning, and the growing complexity of information systems. Hope you enjoy listening!